Comments on: A Note on the Word “Zork” https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/ Nick Montfort Sun, 12 May 2024 07:39:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: David https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-977345 Sun, 12 May 2024 07:39:01 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-977345 It’s worth noting that the first print appearance of the word “Zork” appears in 1935.

https://forums.atariage.com/topic/353988-possible-origin-of-the-word-zork-lil-abner-april-21-1935/

“In his April 21, 1935 Sunday Li’l Abner comic, Al Cap runs a second spin off story alongside the Abner tale. This side story features a character names Washable Jones who is off on a series of weird dream adventures. On this day, though, Washable runs into ZORK – some sort of huge, man-eating monster thing that lives in dungeon. “
Li’l Abner introduced a LOT of pop culture references… I can see a nonsense word lingering through the 40s-50s, and being carried over as slang later. I can’t prove it, mind you, but…

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By: Nick Montfort https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-45343 Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:05:55 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-45343 Thanks for the comment, Marc – and I’m glad we had space intentionally left blank for it.

I certainly doubt a better name will ever be found, but if one ever is, I bet it will happen before we figure out where the word “zork” originally came from.

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By: Marc Blank https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-45005 Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:42:32 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-45005 I confess to being the one who named the game “Zork”; as has been mentioned elsewhere, the term was used as an exclamation during my days at MIT LCS, and it seemed as good as anything else for a name – at least until a better one was found. I’m still waiting.

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By: Penland https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-8120 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:40:48 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-8120 Rest in peace, Simon Joukes.

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By: JP JOUKES https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-7670 Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:15:29 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-7670 Simon Joukes passed away 06 october 2010. 71 years old.
He also exchanged letter with J R R TOLKIEN in 1967.

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By: Aaron Reed https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-2591 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:32:48 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-2591 This may be weird coincidence, but the version of the Adventure source code in Mary Ann Buckles’s thesis on Adventure ends with the line “glorkz4.182/05/11”. I can’t find an explanation of “glorkz”–Google hits seem to show it mostly used as a nonsense variable name–but it’s curious that it has all the letters of Zork in a fairly similar order…

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By: Dave Lebling https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1360 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:04:56 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1360 Nick,

It is my recollection that either Marc Blank (most likely) or Bruce Daniels first created the executable with the funny name “zork.” While “foo” and “bar” were very common nonsense words often used for experimental or temporary efforts, Zork was the first usage of “zork” that I recall.

More commonly used nonsense words were the aforementioned “foo” and “bar,” and also “bletch,” “gritch,” “grotch,” “mumble,” and “frotz.” You may notice that “frotz” eventually made it into the game as a magic spell.

Of your various possible explanations, “zorch” to “zork” seems most likely to me. I was and am the most into SF of the original authors and I had never seen either Brunner’s or Carter’s usages. It is remotely possible Marc had seen the Psych usage, but I doubt it.

It was fundamentally wordplay.

— Dave

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By: Linkblogging For 17/01/10 « Sci-Ence! Justice Leak! https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1351 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:23:13 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1351 […] An etymology of the word Zork. Fascinating stuff. […]

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By: Was Zork invented by a Belgian typewriter? | The Software Nook https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1324 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:18:49 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1324 […] Montfort’s blog, Post Position, has a superlative bit of detective work exploring the origins of the word “zork”, familiar to videogamers as the title of […]

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By: jeff watson » Blog Archive » Weekly Digest for January 13th https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1302 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:38:58 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1302 […] of "zork": relic of belgian typewriter layout? MIT slang-derivate? http://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/ […]

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By: Kurznachrichten 2010-01-12 | Textmulch https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1287 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:40:20 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1287 […] ist eines dieser Worte … A Note on the Word “Zork”, #if, http://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/ […]

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By: Zork « Blog von 360 Live, PS3M und gamesTM https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1286 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:53:22 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1286 […] Ein herrlich faszinierendes, wirres, abstruses Spiel. Ein Textadventure. Doch ist das abstruseste an diese Game nicht seine Welt, seine Spielmechanik oder sein Erfolg. Sondern sein Name: Zork. Und dessen Geschichte und Eigenheit hat das Blog Post Position mal aufgedröselt. […]

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By: links for 2010-01-11 - Nerdcore https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1283 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:07:20 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1283 […] Post Position » A Note on the Word “Zork” (tags: Zork Retrogames textadventure) […]

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By: Darius K. https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1278 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:36:35 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1278 I appreciate the English as She is Spoke reference :)

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By: Nick Montfort https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:43:34 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1273 Thanks, David. See the document I cited and linked to, RFC 3092, for much more on that.

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By: David Chandler https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1272 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:56 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1272 One small footnote. In the first citation given here, you include this quote: “…the name was chosen because it was a widely used nonsense word, like “foobar.”

Actually, the correct spelling is “fubar,” and it’s not a nonsense word at all, it’s a very widely used (WW2 era) acronym used in the military to describe especially bad battlefield casualties. It stands for “[Fouled] Up Beyond All Recognition” (although of course the word is not “fouled”). It’s a cousin of the more widely known “snafu” (Situation Normal, All [Fouled] Up”)

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By: The Murky Origins of Zork's Name | Charlie Foxtrot https://nickm.com/post/2010/01/a-note-on-the-word-zork/comment-page-1/#comment-1271 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:27:30 +0000 http://nickm.com/post/?p=665#comment-1271 […] media researcher Nick Montfort traces the murky origins of Zork’s name. It’s well known that the word was used in MIT hacker jargon around […]

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